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Old 07-08-2009, 10:50 PM
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Default help deciding on an amp blackstar VS peavey vypyr

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ok so i had to sell my Peavey Triple X for some cash, and i managed to get enough from it to where i can land on a $400 amp.

so i went to guitar center, and i looked around, tried amps ive already tried...lalalala...well i decided to order the blackstar ht-5 (same as the one emir demoed)

but tonight...the more i got to thinking...i started leaning toward the peavey vypyr 60 (the tube one)

now i know blackstar has its own legit tube sound, and peavey is a modeler, but im not using it to try to emulate other amps since i always thought that was pointless...but the reason why id get it is versatility.

here is a list of pros and cons i came up with but i still have some trouble...oh and i have tried out both amps many a time


Blackstar

Pros
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Small + Portable
Great Great tube tone
Can get cranked and not make my ears bleed
I can carry it with out breaking my back
Effects Loop
Beautiful Looking
ISF feature (switches from US to UK tone)
good for recording with a good mic


Cons
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only 5 watts,
cant play with a band
very simple, would need to buy more effects later
would have to get a mic pre amp to record and new audio interface since my toneport is have issues..



Peavey Vypyper

Pros
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All in one package
60 tube watts with built in power squeez (1 - 12ax pre amp tube 100% tube power amp)
400 + presets (with footswitch which i would get)
Built in Looper
Built in Audio interface Via USB out (gets detected as an ASIO)
Built in Effects loop
Built in Midi in/out
No need for extra effects or equipment
Can play in band/Gig

Cons
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Original (non tube) ones said to have problems, but have been fixed...so im not sure if im safe or not
Big
Not as heavey as my triple X, but its still not as easy to carry around as the blackstar
Not 100% tube tone
Made in China
not as nice looking


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i guess now im leaning over towards the peavey for the package...more or less for the value and the money ill save...but what do you guys think?
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:56 AM
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My vote is with the Blackheart. Those are smooth sounding amps in such a small package. I personally prefer to run a lower wattage amp driven hard than having more power and playing on 2 or 3. You can get enough volume out of those BH's to play with a band in a rehearsal setting at least, so unless you are gigging out right now, just go with it until you have more funds to get a gigging amp. Also- those fuckers sound GREAT mic'd and recorded!!

Which brings me to another oprion for you- even if you are gigging, mic that BH and run it through the house PA for now if you needmore volume. The tone gets a little jacked to the audience, but you will still hear and feel the amp next to you for your own playability. And the crowd should be getting drunk anyway so they won't notice much.
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ok that was my biggest issue....i know it has a line out to go to the PA which is fine for gigs....so no worries there,


but if you say it can play with a drummer...ill take it! that was my biggest issue

gigging isnt what im worried about, its just playing with a band for practice like i will be doing soon
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You'll love that thing dude. Try using a mic rather than the line out to your pa though. The tone will feel more real that the line out I think. But may be just in my ears. Try both and decide.
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You'll love that thing dude. Try using a mic rather than the line out to your pa though. The tone will feel more real that the line out I think. But may be just in my ears. Try both and decide.
Absolutely, you won't find ANY line out that will sound as good as a properly placed 57 through the PA.
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i know exactly what you are saying, the line out on my mesa is yucky! but the cool thing about the blackstar is that it has a speaker emulator...not as good as my celestian cabs, but itll work...i already have the 57, just need to PA/Mic pre amp
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My vote is for the Blackheart! I've heard many bad things about the Vypyrs. Guess that doesn't mean a whole lot, never used one. But I've also heard that MG's have crushing tone! Hell I would try out that Cyg amp maybe?!?

Yeah scratch those options.....get a MG for the br00tlz. Or whatever the fuck the kids call it today.
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oh shoot, if i had the cash id get cygs amp in a sec, the only problem is that i had already ordered the blackstar and was having second thoughts....we will see if guitar center lets me get my cash back... thanks for reminding me about that one halo
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oh shoot, if i had the cash id get cygs amp in a sec, the only problem is that i had already ordered the blackstar and was having second thoughts....we will see if guitar center lets me get my cash back... thanks for reminding me about that one halo
Marc,
I think if it isn't a special order just for you they have to let you change your mind. You can probably go in and cancel before you even get it.
I think you'd like cygs amp.
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