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Old 07-31-2009, 05:18 PM
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Check 'em out fellas. Some are cool some are so-so. No matter how you cut it there does seem to be something for alot of folks. I'm hip on the Pacer Classic. They all appear to be imports. I have the feeling more will come to. All that USA guitar talk and all. So far so good.

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Yeah those US beaks are cool,but to be honest this new line isnt go change my opinion about Gibson's policy..that they havent one.
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Was that tranny beak a reissue????????? if so, it reminds me of lightning dan's 85 retta score at the konvention a few years ago. Dead FN on.
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they have a raiders graphic...sweet

the only thing i realy liked was the pacers
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The Pacer Classic in the '2010 models' section is actually an import. Looks great and it should have decent hardware.
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God some of those are hideous.
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Yeah most of them are pretty ugly in my opinion.
Wtf that new kramer logo on the strikers makes me kind of want to die. Err... kill gibson's kramer people. at least the headstock is closer to the right shape, the last few years strikers the tip of it looked funky to me.

does that mean they are re-reissuing the 84 model? that could be neat. I wish they'd do the jersey star in black too... and the USA beaks are cool but I keep seein this red one on ebay and I don't get why they don't do that color officially..

the pacer classic looks cool for an import, way better than the last few years pacer series, $100 some pos guitars (which they still have listed and look funky as ever with that gibson-ized point-ish headstock). And with real humbuckers! Great! I hate those quad-rail-dual-rail things personally. Hopefully white isn't the only color.

Barettas without floyds? wow not cool at all, even for imports.
Good God SG type guitars? gibson please stop.
think about it.. they could compete extremely well with fender (incl jackson charvel etc.) if they'd just release quality, american made (even if with japan components) original-ish type guitars. I mean, on the JS they even have an accurate 3-piece neck.

at least its getting better. I have lots more to say and no time to type it... so one final thought

Under guitart, why is the champagne (I was hoping for a faithful FF champ color) is the guitar a pink with polkadots deal? that makes no sense at all to me!!!!

looks like the do the 84 model in like FF greenish color. Looks cool, I'd be in for a usa pacer of that color..
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I have no interest in Gibson's Kramer line
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I have no interest in Gibson's Kramer line
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They think Kramer is something like ESPs LTD brand.
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Was that tranny beak a reissue????????? if so, it reminds me of lightning dan's 85 retta score at the konvention a few years ago. Dead FN on.
Those 3 beaks are probably their best effort to ressurect Kramers legacy but they still need to try harder.
I always wanted to see a new american Pacer custom I or II or a new beak special,among others.
I'd spend some money on one of them too but these guys dont give a damn about their "grown up" customers,they only seem to care about starters etc.
I mean their cheap line is fn huge
Sad.

PS Those graphics are photo graphics,i dont drool about photos.
They're expensive too.
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I will believe it when I actually see any of those for sale in a real store. There will always be a few proof of concept axes but let me see production and sales.
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The decent graphics were one-offs that you can't get anymore. The new models are uninteresting and for the most part, hideous like David said. The re-issues are where it's at for Kramer, as they are all relevant guitars by todays standards, but as long as they think they are on the right track by re-inventing the wheel and/or stamping more and more cheap shit with the logo, it's a F-A-I-L, in my opinion. Sad. Just fucking sad...

Like I said over on KF, Gibson just needs to sell the rights back to GK or to FMIC, and go under without dragging Kramer down with them. I would love to see a progressive company take that name and stick it on the right headstocks and then beat Gibson over the head with their sales!
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Hey Bob I bumped it up to 20 images per post earlier today LOL. Reason being is the site was giving me the middle finger saying I had to many pics... fuck that. This is my site and I say 20 is better!! hahaha

PS - I accidentally deleted your post too somehow. I'm fucking tired. But it was one where you said there was a 10 image limit to images in posts. Total fuckup on my part dude
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At least they FINALLY got the pointy headstocks right. Took them long enough. Now all they've gotta do is fix that ass-ugly new logo font

That white Pacer reissue looks sick though.
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Ugly guitars. Ugly logo. Just fucking kill them already. I've been watching the Kramer enthusiasts put hope into their revival for far too many years. It's not happening. Just let them die and enjoy the vintage guitars that are still out there.
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